In this episode of the Degrees of Success podcast, WWII veteran and retired U.S. Air Force Major Fannie McClendon discusses her long life and military career. The experiences of McClendon and other women of color who served in the 6888th Central Postal Directory Battalion are portrayed in the 2024 movie The Six Triple Eight. The battalion was assigned the monumental task of organizing and delivering mail to troops during World War II.
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My name is Fannie McClendon.
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I鈥檝e enjoyed life.
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I wish I could tell it better than I do, but there are so many things that happened to me while I was in the service.
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A lot of people I got to know...
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So when they said she was going to interview me, I said, 鈥淢y God, I鈥檓 going to have to try to remember all this.鈥
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Most of the people here call me Fannie, which is my real name, but most of the service people call me Fran.
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Lafayette, Louisiana 鈥 that鈥檚 where I was born in 1920.
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I never knew my father.
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He was dead before I was just a little kid.
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I remember being at his funeral when I was five years old.
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That鈥檚 the closest I ever got to my father.
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I was very close to my grandfather and grandmother.
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My grandfather was...
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Whenever I got into trouble, that鈥檚 who I would go to.
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We鈥檇 get in the buggy and leave until the women cooled down, and then we鈥檇 come back.
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We鈥檇 come back later on.
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After my father passed, Mama moved us to New York where she could get work.
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We lived wherever Mama could get a job, and she mostly worked in nursing homes and places like that.
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At the time, she was at Bellevue Hospital in New York.
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She was a live-in nurse.
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We couldn鈥檛 live there too, so we lived at a convent school.
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That鈥檚 where we were most of the time 鈥 either the convent school there or a convent school in New Jersey, or wherever she was working.
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We lived in Harlem for a while.
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We did go to the Apollo Theater.
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But I wasn鈥檛 really going to see the people performing there.
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That was the first time I got to see Cab Calloway.
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We鈥檇 go to see whoever was popular at the time.
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Most of them are dead now.
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We moved to Camden, New Jersey, and that鈥檚 where I started high school.
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We lived in the YWCA.
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I graduated from high school 鈥 the year, I can鈥檛 always remember.
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But I remember Pearl Harbor.
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December 7, 1941 鈥 a date which will live in infamy.
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People were upset about what was happening.
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All I knew was what the newspapers said and what people talked about.
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They were talking about people going into the service, especially young women.
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My mother was not very happy when I decided to go down to Fifth Avenue and take the test to join the Army.
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There were about seven Black women.
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One was a doctor, one a nurse.
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They told us all seven of the Black women had failed.
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We didn鈥檛 know what to do.
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One of the people there said, 鈥淲e鈥檒l wait. We鈥檒l call you and let you know.鈥
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There was one woman who lived up in Harlem and worked for Mrs. Roosevelt.
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She told her what had happened.
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Then they called and said everything was all right.
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We were going to go on to Du Bois and be enrolled in the service.
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At first, we thought we鈥檇 all failed.
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We found out that wasn鈥檛 true.
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My mom began to accept it after a while that I was in the service.
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She was happy with me being in the service.
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I was sworn in.
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I studied on Whitehall Street, I remember.
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But we had most of our training in Des Moines.
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There were quite a few things that happened that we weren鈥檛 used to in New York.
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We couldn鈥檛 go to the BX.
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We had to make a list of what we needed, and one person would get it for us.
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There were lots of rules.
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There were some people from the North who had never been around people from other parts of the country, especially Black people.
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There were mixtures that had not mixed before.
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I remember one woman we disliked because she was a teacher and was very upset about being put with us.
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So they sent her to OCS to satisfy her.
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We were all very angry about that, just because she didn鈥檛 like being with us.
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鈥淭hey鈥檙e white folks, let them be white folks.鈥
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Funny things like that happen.
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After basic training, they sent me to officer candidate school.
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Then they sent us off to the war in England.
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They put us girls in charge of fixing the mail system.
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I became an officer.
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The offices had rented houses for the officers to live in, but the girls all lived in an old, broken-down school building.
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They got that fixed up and started working on all the mail.
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They had to do something.
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There was an awful lot of mail.
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The English had been taking care of the mail at the stations, but they had done a very bad job.
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So that鈥檚 what the girls had to clean up and get out.
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The girls did an excellent job because they didn鈥檛 have much to go on.
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They came in all intense.
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Sometimes you look at the pictures and see a lot of people working to get the mail out.
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If they couldn鈥檛 find a name, or if they found a name but couldn鈥檛 find an envelope, they made things up.
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There was a list of things like: if you found this, your grandmother might have sent cookies, but you got cake instead.
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And it satisfied a lot of people.
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For fun, we would take the train into London.
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I got to see the prime minister.
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We almost got to see the Queen, but they dragged us out somewhere else.
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When we were in London, we tried to see whatever sights we heard about or wanted to see.
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I learned to play golf while I was in England.
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They had golf clubs there.
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When I talk about places I鈥檝e been, many people here today say, 鈥淲ell, when did you work?鈥
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We went when we had time off.
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We did have some time off.
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When we moved to France, we had a lot of German prisoners who did a lot of the work we didn鈥檛 do.
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Sometimes it was funny because they hired some French women who worked.
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But the German prisoners made them wash up before they went into the dining room.
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There are lots of little details.
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On Sunday afternoon or Sunday morning, during church time...
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They鈥檇 all get together, and our troops would invite us over for meals, dancing, or whatever.
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One Sunday, three of the girls went off with a couple of guys and were killed in an accident.
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Unfortunately, I was in command. I was in charge of all the girls there.
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I had to go identify two of the girls because they did not have their dog tags on.
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They were laid out in one of the tents.
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And this was long before any of you guys were born.
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General Eisenhower informs me that the forces of Germany have surrendered to the United Nations.
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The day the war ended, we had the day off and got down to the Riviera.
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I thought I heard it, but I wasn鈥檛 sure.
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The radio said something about the war being over in Germany.
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So I told the girls, and one said, 鈥淲ell, how does she know that?鈥
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鈥淚t鈥檚 all in French.鈥
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Another one said, 鈥淪he comes from New Orleans and speaks Patois.鈥
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And that鈥檚 how she got to know him.
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That night I called my boss, and she said yes 鈥 the war was over in Germany and we were going home.
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The parade and everything was so nice down the street.
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I learned to fix things while I was in England and in different countries, and that鈥檚 why I became an antique dealer.
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The dishes in here come from England.
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There are so many things that happened in the years I was in the service.
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Wars, marriages, deaths 鈥 all that sort of thing.
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It鈥檚 kind of hard.
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It鈥檚 been quite a life.
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My name is Fannie McClendon, and you鈥檙e watching Stories of Success.
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Perfect.
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I love it.
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Well, you guys are real nice, but I don鈥檛 know how you鈥檙e going to get my broom back.
Established to honor National Society of Leadership and Success members with a military affiliation, the $5,000 Major Fannie Griffin-McClendon Scholarship supports military families in pursuit of higher education. It was named for Major Fannie Griffin-McClendon, who served 26 years in the military.
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